Strange game being played after a very strange weekend due to the weather. It is good to hear Sullivan is back and the D is as full as its been all year. NU has only won three games since December, so this should be a walk, but I dont think it will. I have a feeling that NU is going to really push the play and Rawlings may stand on his head.
NU 3, BC 2
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Taking nothing for granted here, they beat BU and Rawlings was very good. Roy and his line will be very tough, need to take away their space. If they shut down the top line it will be very difficult for NU. I expect a very tight low scoring game and we are working against some probabilities but I think we have enough to win.
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I believe (don't quote me on this) that BC is the home team, as the first Monday's night game participants both get to be the home team on the 2nd Monday. Does BC try to create matchups with this advantage? Roy line is very dangerous... might want to look to stick the best pairing/line combo on them (does BC have one?). Bring out the golds tonight and wear them with fricken pride. No one needs to be reminded of Madigan's behavior after their win at Matthews in the opener.
I think the long break probably helps BC more than it does with NU. Additionally, all the pressure is on last-place NU to salvage their season with a Pot. That's good (and bad). They'll be playing the game of their lives. BC needs to just settle in and take away time and space. And please hit someone.
First goal is a big one. Keeping NU off the board for as long as possible really helps obviously. Need to commit to defense and work from there. I expect the PP to be better once again with Matheson back. Really want to see the front of the net protected better, that is where I thought Vermont went to with regularity and almost caused problems for BC. No shot is a bad shot. On that note, want to see less passing, more shooting.
HUGE stretch of games here. Trophy season starts tonight. Then MC, UNH, MC and then 2 with a tough PC team. We'll see what they are made out of after this stretch.
Whitney goes off and wins the MVP. Another unlikely player will pot a goal (Silk, Sit, Smith, Dyroff).
4-peat forever, Saponari never.
BC 3, NU 1
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We are the home team, no question we'll bust out the golds.
Will be interesting to see who York matches up against Roy.
I've been saying, I know it's important every night but tonight a quick start would be humongous. Get one or two behind Rawlings early and he'll crack and the 'here we go again' mentality will set in. When Rawlings is on, he's on but when he's not he's really not.
Agreed Mav, having Matheson back there helps out the powerplay so much. Obviously with him on the first unit he provides offensive ability on the blue line that no one else on this team has. But even on the powerplay we didn't score in the 2nd, that was some of the best movement I can remember.
Regardless of what the line sheet says I assume we'll see Whitney with Arnold & Hayes for most of the night and York keep Silk-Sit-Straight together for some size.
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Come straight at him and Rawlings is often unbeatable. He takes up a lot of space and plays high at the top of the crease. But, get him moving side to side and you can see why he gives up goals. He is slow and not very athletic laterally. Success comes by crashing the net and beating him back-door.
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Experience in big games will help BC and you have to think NU may shit themselves under the spotlight, but this has Pats vs. Baltimore written all over it. For some reason, I think we lose. We shouldn't but I'm going with 3-2 NU.
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Thanks, Scarlet.
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Anyone have radio/video stream info? Doesn't look like its on TV out west.
Oh and have to go with Eagles 4-2
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FYI Harvard beat BU 7-4 in the consolation game.
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Scoreless after 1. BC with a big SOG advantage. Still NU got a few pucks around the crease to make me nervous. BC PP 0-3 I think? Looks pretty awful.
I think we're going to settle in here and see a pitcher's duel.
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Bckid-it is on NESN if you have Directv and the sports package. If not, any decent sports bar should be able to put it on for you.
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Horribly officiated game (both ways), horrible ice, Don Orsillo calling the game. Other than that, great game so far...
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Arnold, Macleod, Mullane all hitting iron tonight. BC can't get it to go in.
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Might turn out to be one of those nights...
Haven't been able to get a good, smooth transition game going so far
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Boom ARnold from Hayes. 1-0.
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2-0 Gaudreau with a great forecheck. Not sure if it was him or Linell with the goal.. and it was Johnny's goal.
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Well, Wey just got deked there.
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Action picking up
dumbass behind the back pass by hayes
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Originally posted by pinhead # 2:
NU 3, BC 2
what a surprise!
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WOW. Roy scores. Then get stuffed on a breakaway while NU skating the entire shift with 6 guys. BC scores again on a weird deflection by Brown and then Whitney scores with .4 seconds left.
4-1 Eagles after 2.
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Imagine being Arnold and having Rawlings hand you that puck when he could have just covered it.
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If NU scores on the Roy breakaway (great save by Milner BTW) as the 6th player on the ice, is that reviewable?
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Milner napping. Roy snipes corner on harmless wrist shot. 11 seconds in. 4-2.
Seriously?
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And BC hits another post. That is 4 tonight.
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4-3 BTW. Saponari with a PPG (Whitney just dove at a guy's legs) on a deflection.
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Milner saves another breakaway on Vermeesch. BC comes down and hits the post again. 9:45 left.
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Oh man. 5-3. Matheson to Gaudreau. Damn.
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Mullane ENG PPG finishes this off. 6-3 final.
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Originally posted by Johnnyduke:
Horribly officiated game (both ways), horrible ice, Don Orsillo calling the game. Other than that, great game so far...
Orsillo so much better than Tom "I never shut up and talk over the action" Caron.
Refs let NU skate w/ 6 guys for a LONG stretch twice. BC hit 4 posts. Game could have been a walk w/ a little bit of luck.
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5 posts. What a weird game.
Two turning points were both on Milner. The extra-man save on Roy's breakaway with the 2-1 score. And then the Roy goal :11 seconds into it really changed the complexion quickly.
I honestly cannot even comprehend how the refs could let NU skate with 6 guys twice for extended periods. What a joke.
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Don't think so, but it is in the NFL (I think)
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It was a terrific game, lots of up and down action, posts hit, deflections, some great saves and the good guys won. Whitney's goal was really the defensemen for NU thinking the horn is going to blow we are out of danger, they kinda of stopped playing, then Milner gives the goal back to them by not being ready to start the third period. However he made two breakaway saves and he was solid the rest of the way. I was very nervous when it was 4-3 and they were one shot away from tying it. The Matheson rush and dish to Johnnie was a thing of beauty and put the game out of reach. The Hayes assist for Arnold's goal was beautiful as well, he waited took his time and made the pass over, we really needed that because we were getting a little frustrated with all the post shots. Give NU credit they played a good game and they came back and made a game of it in the third period.
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Originally posted by Johnnyduke:
Might turn out to be one of those nights...
Haven't been able to get a good, smooth transition game going so far
Until Billy pumped one in I had a feeling after about the ninth post it was going to be one of those nights.
Rawlings is a f'ing train wreck in a big spot, has been for a long time.
Have the game on DVR want to see replays of the 6+ men on the ice, being at the game I didn't pick up on it but twitter absolutely exploded that those 2 buffoons missed it (I actually don't mind Grav that much but the rest are miserable).
What would the Beanpot final be without agita? Not nearly as bad as the past couple of Beanpot wins though. Great experience for some of the younger players/older players who haven't played much on this stage.
BTW Matheson's move for Gaudreau's second. Holy $hit
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Flashes of pure brilliance:
Hayes feed to Arnold
Matheson pass to Johnny G
Milner stonewall's NU twice on breakaways
Flashes of mental weakness:
Roy goal's both were weak by Milner (unusual mental let downs for him)
Giving up two break aways
Letting NU sneak back to 4-3 when they were down and out
Postive take aways:
Obviously any Beanpot is a GREAT thing
The third and fourth line seem to be improving with better production recently.
Did kill them off in the middle of the third after we let them back in
This needs to be a building block type of win. We dominated early and hit pipes like a crackhead all night but we need to be able to maintain a stronger mental focus throughout a full 60 minute game. Great win especially for the Seniors. Now let's learn how to be more steady and consistent. If you allow a better team like any we face in the NCAA Regionals to hang around and make mental mistakes the season will end in Providence and not Pittsburgh. My Schizophrenia continues. But I think I will just sit back and enjoy this one for a few days...
BTW, I will give NU credit for the chant of the night. After the usual Safety School, Sunday School, Jesus loves us, they followed on with "Who's your Pope?"... just when you think kids are never paying attention...
Mike
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Originally posted by luke87:
Flashes of pure brilliance:
Hayes feed to Arnold
Matheson pass to Johnny G
Milner stonewall's NU twice on breakaways
Flashes of mental weakness:
Roy goal's both were weak by Milner (unusual mental let downs for him)
Giving up two break aways
Letting NU sneak back to 4-3 when they were down and out
Postive take aways:
Obviously any Beanpot is a GREAT thing
The third and fourth line seem to be improving with better production recently.
Did kill them off in the middle of the third after we let them back in
This needs to be a building block type of win. We dominated early and hit pipes like a crackhead all night but we need to be able to maintain a stronger mental focus throughout a full 60 minute game. Great win especially for the Seniors. Now let's learn how to be more steady and consistent. If you allow a better team like any we face in the NCAA Regionals to hang around and make mental mistakes the season will end in Providence and not Pittsburgh. My Schizophrenia continues. But I think I will just sit back and enjoy this one for a few days...
BTW, I will give NU credit for the chant of the night. After the usual Safety School, Sunday School, Jesus loves us, they followed on with "Who's your Pope?"... just when you think kids are never paying attention...
Mike
Roy had a very good game but...I thought Matheson was the best player on the ice all night. That kid is a STUD.
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Originally posted by luke87:
Flashes of pure brilliance:
Hayes feed to Arnold
Matheson pass to Johnny G
Milner stonewall's NU twice on breakaways
Flashes of mental weakness:
Roy goal's both were weak by Milner (unusual mental let downs for him)
Giving up two break aways
Letting NU sneak back to 4-3 when they were down and out
Postive take aways:
Obviously any Beanpot is a GREAT thing
The third and fourth line seem to be improving with better production recently.
Did kill them off in the middle of the third after we let them back in
This needs to be a building block type of win. We dominated early and hit pipes like a crackhead all night but we need to be able to maintain a stronger mental focus throughout a full 60 minute game. Great win especially for the Seniors. Now let's learn how to be more steady and consistent. If you allow a better team like any we face in the NCAA Regionals to hang around and make mental mistakes the season will end in Providence and not Pittsburgh. My Schizophrenia continues. But I think I will just sit back and enjoy this one for a few days...
BTW, I will give NU credit for the chant of the night. After the usual Safety School, Sunday School, Jesus loves us, they followed on with "Who's your Pope?"... just when you think kids are never paying attention...
Mike
To piggyback onto your post here for a second:
- Add the unassisted goal by Gaudreau as pure brilliance just to take possession away from NU by himself.
- Forget about the Matheson pass. How about stickhandling with strength through the middle of the ice with NU sticks all over him (I thought we were supposed to eliminate that Mr. Bertagna) before making the pass. That was something else.
Mental weakness moments:
- Toss in the Whitney penalty right after Roy scored his 2nd that got NU to within a goal on the PPG.
- Also add Wey inexplicably getting juked by Roy who is not a Gaudreau type one-on-one guy (and a LH shot at that coming down the left wing) to allow for a shooting lane on goal #1. It wasn't pretty to watch that replay.
Turning points in the game were huge
1) 2 goals in 1:15
2) Milner stones Roy on breakaway (with 6 men on the ice)
3) 2 goals in 1:23 to end the 2nd period including the Whitney buzzer beater
4) Roy catches Milner off guard to start the 3rd 0:11 into the period (I really think Milner just thought it was going to miss the net and let it go because he saw it the whole way through with no screen).
5) Whitney to Matheson to Gaudreau.
0 for 3 on the powerplay to start the game could have been a killer against a better team. Getting goal #1 was huge for their confidence.
NU is a fairly terrible team. We will know more with Mack, UNH Mack these next two weekends.
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Matheson's playing a lot smarter since his little vacation, too. It sucked to see him get hurt but maybe a little down time was good for him overall.
We are clearly seeing what an impact he has on this team - it's no coincidence that they've turned it around since he got back in the lineup. Obviously this is very early, but Matheson is going to make a lot of money playing pro hockey some day.
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Congrats to the seniors ad the coaching staff, a remarkable achievement, this is a tough tournament to win, let alone 4 times, 5 out of the last 6. This makes it clear, if it wasn't before, BC rules Boston college hockey. We are blessed with a great coaching staff and a great group of young men. Noticed that Billet did not dress last night, anyone know what's up. Saw Patch on the ice on crutches, still another 6 weeks to the season but it is hard to imagine that he will be back. The kids went over and give him a gentle hug, he is a senior as well and he has made a real contribution to the overall success of this class. It is too bad he suffered this injury, we have had some players fill in nicely, particularly Jeke. He has come along very well. Now
on to the HE regular season. Tough week ahead, Merrimack and UNH. Could really solidify their lead with two wins.
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Nice additions to my thoughts guys....
I spoke to Alber on the escalator coming into the game. I asked him if we could expect him back before the HE or NCAA playoffs. He said, "I don't know. I hope I progress faster than the Doctors are telling me." This is an indirect answer and leaves me to think the doctors are saying "don't count on it, but who knows..."
As one expects from a Jerry York Senior, he was a very polite and friendly young man. One thing that struck me was how thin he was. It is remarkable how far that young man has come as a hockey player. I've said it before, I always respected his engine, but never thought he could play defense in this league. Too small... The fact that we miss him so much tells me I was clearly mistaken. I wish him the best in his future. Nice kid...
Mike
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Matheson has got a little Mike Mottau or Bobby Allen in him. Solid in their own end but above average offensive skills.
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"BC rules Boston college hockey"
Since 1998, BC has ruled college hockey, period. And it's really not even close.
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Agreed but they are now at another level from the teams of the late nineties and early 2000's. Those teams aspired to get to the top of the heap and hoped to win, these teams now are at the top and expect to win.
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As absurd as 5 of 6 and 4 in a row is to us now, looking back it is equally absurd that BC could only grab the '01 and '04 Pot between 1998 and 2007. BU had some absurdly bad teams those years and still won it while BC was consistently better (usually WAY better most years). Of course, that might have helped keep Parker around so Jerry could skate circles around him this whole time. Those BU Beanpots while they would win nothing else were probably similar to the Frozen Fours Maine kept going to (courtesy of laughably easy brackets) with Whitehead to keep getting him contract extensions.
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Originally posted by maverick65:
As absurd as 5 of 6 and 4 in a row is to us now, looking back it is equally absurd that BC could only grab the '01 and '04 Pot between 1998 and 2007. BU had some absurdly bad teams those years and still won it while BC was consistently better (usually WAY better most years). Of course, that might have helped keep Parker around so Jerry could skate circles around him this whole time. Those BU Beanpots while they would win nothing else were probably similar to the Frozen Fours Maine kept going to (courtesy of laughably easy brackets) with Whitehead to keep getting him contract extensions.
Worst I remember was 1999. Not sure how bad BU was that year but BC was very good. Both first round games went into OT and that's when the first round game started at 6PM. So the second game, BC v BU, didn't start until well after 9PM and went into OT. I believe Corazzini scored when Clemensen misplayed the puck a bit. Got home at about 2AM and even JT The Brick had callers saying how great a night of college hockey they had just seen. That was a tough one to lose. Then, Harvard stays w/ BU in the final but couldn't quite get it done.
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Mav,
You are extremely knowledgeable but you miss the true pain this tournament has caused us veteran Eagles. I had to explain to my kids that in my lifetime, BC won the Beanpot once in the 70's, once in the 80's and once in the 90's. Then my kids were born and we have won 7..... They think it is the BC Invitational!!!
Some people think these grey hairs are a sign of my age. I think it is from lesser teams beating BC in the Beanpot!!
Mike
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You got it Luke ! In the 35 years I have been going, there were too many nights I left so angry that I swore never to attend another, and by the following February was back in my seat. Many times BC was the better team, and BU found a way. It really was comical at times. So, this stretch is something special for me (5 out of 6). Congrats to the first BC class to sweep the Beanpot.
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You think Alber looks skinny in a suit and tie? You should see his legs when he is wearing shorts. Reminds us that BC plays more of a finesse defense than a rock-em, sock-em style.
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Luke87 is speaking the truth............i remember well. There was a streak i think 29 years from say 1965 to 1984 where they won 2 'pots with really good teams through most of those years
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From the win in 65 until the roll started in 2000, they won 3 Beanpots in 35 years....
During that period, they won 4 HE Championships, 6 HE Regular Season Crowns, 2 ECAC Championships, 3 ECAC Regular Season Crowns, appeard in the NCAA playoffs 12 times, made the Frozen Four 7 times..... and just 3 stinking Beanpots. It wasn't like they were bad. They just couldn't win this damm tournament!!!
You know I am enjoying this one even better the more I think about it!!!
Mike
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rewatching the goals, i noticed some good unsung guys
1) great interception by matheson in the neutral zone and i thought whitney did a great job of tracking down the loose puck and then driving the net to open up the lane for hayes to arnold
2) gaudreau's spin move behind the net and then juke on cornell were slick but his flip pass from the blue line to the end boards was great. brown pinned the puck deep, boxed out a huskie, then raced another one down and created a turnover that immediately preceded the spin move.
3) quinn smith kept the cycle alive and found macloed who shot the puck for brown's deflection. i see a lot of games, but i think #7 took more shots in one game than i'd seen in his career
4) macloed again was inexplicably in the crease allowing whitney to get two cracks at the goal before time expired. smart play by #7 if it was because he realized NU had no chance of breaking out with no time left. also, arnold makes a solid play in the d zone to pick up the puck and corral it away from the empty net. he then obviously is the first to the puck after the rawlings brain cramp. that kid never gives up on a play
5) nothing to add here but wow. when did matheson pick up gaudreau in his vision? it looked like kelly to bourque the other night in the B's game
6) gaudreau makes a nice bunny hop to get out of the zone to find mullane for the tap in goal. knowing mullane i was actually shocked that he did try to make the unselfish pass to brown. but he made the smart play for the empty net.
did not see a lot of 9, 18, 17 and obviously seems like 2 didnt play at all. you could see fatigue setting in. i thought milner was really strong when he had to be. though these mental lapses are very bizarre.
the 6 man breakaway was hysterical. what robbery by parker. roy is a slick slick talent. it would have been havoc to see that puck go in
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